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Apr. 27th, 2018 01:22 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
lliiraI'm one of those "we need to have actual discussions with people who disagree with us about things, so long as they're civil and not super extremist, and even when they're super extremist there are people who are capable of saving them so support that" people.
But Jordan Peterson fans? I can't. It's not that his opinions are bad, illogical, and willfully ignorant, though of course they are. It's that Peterson himself is both so phenomenally stupid and unbearably boring that I just... can't. I can't even say well, they're falling for charisma, because he's got less charisma than a typical mold spore. He claims that metaphor is reality and then rails against his misconception of... everything, because he's wrong about everything except "clean your room." He probably makes that into a weird attempted metaphor in a way that ends up making it wrong too.
That's the level these people will accept so long as someone is saying women are lesser than men. Not just lesser, but not human beings at all. Which is what he's saying, all the time, and he isn't good at obfuscating and I don't understand why anyone pretends that he is. Maybe because he's also so deathly terrified of women that a Disney princess doing anything but sleeping makes him cry. Though he apparently thinks men are lobsters so I'm not sure they get off a lot better in this. And if you believe metaphor is reality you think you yourself aren't human anyway.
(Also the main characters of Sleeping Beauty were three middle-aged women who used a young man as a tool to defeat another middle-aged woman. The man can't even comprehend Disney movies.)
Anyway, I have seen people say they were drawn to the alt-right through Jordan Peterson -- he's the milk before meat of it -- and got out. I'm glad they did and I hope more people do as quickly as possible. Figuring out how to prevent people from falling for someone with no charisma or apparent intelligence is beyond me though.
But Jordan Peterson fans? I can't. It's not that his opinions are bad, illogical, and willfully ignorant, though of course they are. It's that Peterson himself is both so phenomenally stupid and unbearably boring that I just... can't. I can't even say well, they're falling for charisma, because he's got less charisma than a typical mold spore. He claims that metaphor is reality and then rails against his misconception of... everything, because he's wrong about everything except "clean your room." He probably makes that into a weird attempted metaphor in a way that ends up making it wrong too.
That's the level these people will accept so long as someone is saying women are lesser than men. Not just lesser, but not human beings at all. Which is what he's saying, all the time, and he isn't good at obfuscating and I don't understand why anyone pretends that he is. Maybe because he's also so deathly terrified of women that a Disney princess doing anything but sleeping makes him cry. Though he apparently thinks men are lobsters so I'm not sure they get off a lot better in this. And if you believe metaphor is reality you think you yourself aren't human anyway.
(Also the main characters of Sleeping Beauty were three middle-aged women who used a young man as a tool to defeat another middle-aged woman. The man can't even comprehend Disney movies.)
Anyway, I have seen people say they were drawn to the alt-right through Jordan Peterson -- he's the milk before meat of it -- and got out. I'm glad they did and I hope more people do as quickly as possible. Figuring out how to prevent people from falling for someone with no charisma or apparent intelligence is beyond me though.
