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Shutdown, Part 3: I Am Going to Finish This Today if it Kills Me
CN: Anita Blake story, so much spite, massive jealousy, embarrassing amounts of unintentional (?) author self-revelation
Just jumping right in...
Anita thinks that Richard is so handsome, why would he want Ellen? Because looks are all that matter, at least in men. Richard points out that, “Ellen is willing to try and let me keep you, Asher, and Jean-Claude in my life, Anita. That’s a lot" (16). That's too much, as far as I'm concerned, because Asher, Anita, and JC are all terrible people. Especially Anita and JC. Also, that a monogamous woman is expected to let her husband be poly -- that is more than a lot. How would you feel about someone demanding you be monogamous, Anita/LKH? That is no different from what Richard is asking of Ellen.
Anita and Micah cuddle all up on each other in the booth and Ellen's biology professor persona takes over and she asks them if it's because they're "lycanthropes" who are under stress. Richard says it's normal for Micah and Anita to have that level of PDA in public. Ellen says, "you're teasing me" (17). Ellen is horrified, and Anita has no idea why. It's because you violated societal norms in a public space while having dinner with a woman you just met. You have been incredibly rude this whole time, and Ellen apparently just reached her breaking point -- long after I would have, by the way.
Unfortunately, one thing I’d learned about being poly is that just because you’re not having sex with someone doesn’t mean they can’t screw it all up; everyone’s lover can affect the emotional side of things and Ellen had all the ear marks of being a pain in everyone’s emotional poly ass.
ELLEN is the pain in the ass? ELLEN? Anita's the one who's been unbelievably rude, jealous, dismissive, and downright nasty from the very first. Because Anita is not poly. Anita wants a harem. Also, people can impact each other emotionally even if they aren't fucking: who knew?
Anita, being supposedly oh-so-patient in a really smug and obviously rude way, asks what bothered Ellen as if she didn't already know. Ellen describes, in detail, how the touching Micah and Anita had been doing throughout the meal (everything but genital contact, basically) has upset her. Anita says that she wouldn't touch Micah's "groin", though she's getting very close, because "that would be rude and stupid. I'm trying not to be the first, and I'm not the second if I can avoid it" (18).
You have been the first from the first second you saw Ellen or even before, Anita, and you know it. And now you're pretending to be all innocent, trying to make Ellen the bad one for being bothered by your blatant violation of manners. You do not get to define social norms for everyone, Anita. Feeling up your husband's thigh under the table during a tense conversation about sex with someone who is already uncomfortable with you is rude. You don't have to be giving him a handjob for it to be that. Maybe it's not stupid if your goal is to make her seriously upset.
Ellen blushes and stands up to leave. Richard tries to stop her. She says, "no, Richard, she's deliberately trying to make me feel stupid and rude, and just... I can't do this."
This is really sounding like a real conversation that LKH had with someone now. Because Ellen is completely right. This exact point is when I think "Ellen" left the restaurant and "Richard" followed her irl.
Fictional Ellen sits back down, though, because fictional Richard asks her to. "Looking at how yummy he was always made it hard for me to be mad at him, too, or had once. Being in love with someone gives them a lot of extra clout."
Love = finding someone "yummy", i.e. handsome. Anita has the depth of a teaspoon. Also, if this is based on something that really happened, LKH just told the real woman that she if she truly loved the real man, she'd have sat back down and continued to take everything LKH was dishing out.
Ellen starts to cry as she says this:
I was willing to believe that you needed rougher things in the bedroom than I was comfortable with, so I thought I could accept you needed someone for that and for bondage, but now I see her and you have to stop lying to me, Richard. It’s not needing to be rough, or needing bondage, it’s just her. You want to keep her in your bed, and that’s that.
This is where it crosses over to wish fulfillment again. Poor Ellen.
Micah, being worse than a waste of space, tries to convince Ellen that Richard and Anita really do just need each other for the BDSM. He mentions that Richard sometimes leaves marks on Anita's body. Ellen is upset by this, and asks, "you beat her?" They say, "no." Anita says, "I would never let anyone beat me" (20).
Because anyone who is physically abused is "letting" someone beat them. Go bathe in Legos, LKH.
On to something less rage-inducing. My husband and I often call what he does "beating" me. It does not have to have a definite connotation of abuse. It can be empowering to take terms that are often used to denote abuse and use them to mean something wonderful instead. And if Richard is leaving bruises on Anita -- and Richard and Anita seem to get very rough, much rougher than my husband and I get -- well, I think "beating" is an apt term for it.
But here is why what Richard and Anita do is okay, unlike "beating" would be: they're playing at rape fantasies. Which is fine. But somehow I don't think Anita/LKH would think a vigorous spanking in a non-rape fantasy context is also fine, at least for a woman to receive from a man. Anita is still kind of embarrassed about playing out her rape fantasies, and this is not Anita, this is LKH. Anita actually rapes people and is actually raped all the time: Anita's life *is* the rape fantasy. I don't know if a rape fantasy can have rape fantasies. I'd say probably, in the hands of a different writer who was able to draw boundaries between fiction and reality much more strongly than LKH can.
Anita then says she also "tops" some of the men in her life. Well then that's okay! The implication is that being a woman who's always submissive sexually isn't okay. Ellen asks how this is not abuse. Anita replies, "this is my sexuality; it's what makes me happy. You saying that it's abuse is insulting; it would be like me saying that your idea of sex is boring" (20).
Anita obviously thinks Ellen's idea of sex is boring, and worse. And what makes you happy is not necessarily good, Anita, especially if you're abusing people, which by the way YOU ARE, also you are being abused, and it has nothing to do with the marks on your body and everything to do with the fact that you do not consent and neither does anyone else in your life. Also, thinking someone is abusive is far worse than thinking they're boring.
Ellen freaks out about Anita bringing up her sex life, saying it's none of her business. Ellen is correct. She is the one being asked for the major favor here. And, like it or not, people leaving bruises on each other is still considered kind of odd -- and you know what? I'm okay with that. I'm okay with bruises being questioned, because far too often there is real abuse going on and there are no questions asked at all. Obviously I would not be okay with being told my husband was abusing me even after I'd explained what was going on, of course.
Ellen says she didn't think it was bothering Anita to talk about it. Anita says, "it doesn't bother me to talk to my sweeties, but to someone I've just met who is judging every word I say, yeah, it bothers me."
First, "sweeties". I hope that coffee was poisoned. Second, Ellen is the one being asked a favor, you obnoxious waste of beach balls. She is here in order to understand your relationship with Richard, whom she is planning to marry. That entails asking questions. You have been very clear from the first page that you hate the fact that she has a relationship with Richard, that you are jealous of her, and that you hate her. She has given you so much more leeway that I ever would dream.
Anita is royally pissed off that Ellen would dare not fall at her feet. Then she thinks about how Richard being married, i.e. the "white picket fence", means he's denying himself rough sex and bondage. Then she thinks, "Was it possible to lie to yourself so well that you didn’t realize you were doing it? Hell, yes. I’d done it myself for years" (22).
I feel very embarrassed. As if I'd just walked in on LKH taking a dump. Okay, um. LKH is married. LKH likes BDSM. LKH is saying, through Anita, that she doesn't feel BDSM and being married go together. I'm going to close the door and pretend I didn't see anything now.
Richard and Anita give each other a look and apparently read each other's minds. Ellen asks wtf. Richard says, "Anita is wondering why I want someone who is so uncomfortable with so much of my life". Anita says yes, Ellen says, "it's just sex, not his whole life." Then there are a whole bunch of looks given.
Anita says, "If you believe sex isn't that important to you, that's your choice, but..." (23).
That's phrased to say, not that sex isn't as important to Ellen, but that she only BELIEVES that it isn't as important to her. Second, Ellen just said sex wasn't Richard's whole life. Anita is being judgmental at someone who has a life outside of sex. She is saying that if you have a life in which anything but sex takes center stage, or anything but sex is important, or in which you don't let sex control you completely: you are wrong. You are probably lying to yourself.
Sex is probably more important to me than to most people. And I find Anita's attitude here not only completely repugnant, but severely disturbing. If one does not have a life outside sex, one does not have a life worth the name.
Ellen says, "You’re asking me to let you have sex with Anita and then come home to me as if it’s all normal" (24). Yep, that's exactly it. Because Richard supposedly "needs" the bondage and rough sex. Look... no. I'm sorry, but no. It's perfectly fine to choose that you only want to have sexual relationships with a BDSM component. And for people who enjoy it, it often gives emotional fulfillment as well as physical, and is a wonderful thing. It can even help heal some psychological wounds. I know these things from personal experience. But it is not a need that trumps all else the way LKH is trying to present it here.
If Ellen loves Richard, she's supposed to let him have sex with Anita -- specifically Anita. But why is she supposed to change her monogamous sexuality to suit him? Why is she supposed to be okay with anything he does sexually, anything at all, while he doesn't bend an inch for her? Or -- horrible thought -- are we supposed to think he's bending because he isn't forcing her to do things she does not want to do personally, like being tied up?
Ellen calls Richard a selfish bastard, and yup. Then she turns into straw and demands, "are you honestly saying, that if I don't say yes to all this perverted sex that you won't marry me?" (24) Oh yes, the only reason anyone would have any problems with Anita/LKH is that we are vanilla prudes who think BDSM is "perverted". LKH insulted my sexuality how many times? She made it clear that some kinds of BDSM are okay and others are not. That monogamy is not okay, too. Plus there's the little fact that the sex in her books is almost always deeply, wildly sick as it is not safe, sane, or consensual in the slightest. Also it's not at all hot. But I guess I'm just a prude who's prone to call anyone who likes BDSM "perverted". I'll have to ask my husband to spank that out of me.
Richard dumps Ellen and Ellen responds by complimenting Anita. "You must be incredible in bed for him to throw everything away. I guess I can't compete with a fur banging, blood whore." I do not believe Ellen would say "fur banging", as she was about to marry a werewolf. The blood whore part, sure. And in this universe, I am there with her, because vampires in Anita's world are absolutely horrible and frankly I think anyone who would willingly have sex with one has severe issues. Not that anyone does ever willingly have sex with one, because there is no consent in this world.
Richard says that he must be a blood whore too, Ellen says he told her he didn't have sex with the vampires, the tall, muscular Richard leans in on her because that doesn't make him look like a collosal dick and threatening to boot or anything, and says, "Just because no one sticks their dicks in each other doesn’t mean it’s not sex." Wait a damn minute. I swear I've seen EXACTLY this line in a spork of LKH's work. Also, this is a 180 from everything LKH has written that I've ever seen, in which the sticking in of the dicks is the only thing that matters at all.
Ellen slaps Richard and runs out of the restaurant, he doesn't follow her, the end. She's been "shut down" all right, har dee har har. I am so curious who the man was who did follow "Ellen", and about whom this wish fulfillment jealous revenge fantasy is written. Oh well, we'll probably never know.
Wow, was that ever nasty. I feel dirty from reading it. Also embarrassed. I don't think LKH meant to give all of us this window into her yucky psyche, but there it is.
Just jumping right in...
Anita thinks that Richard is so handsome, why would he want Ellen? Because looks are all that matter, at least in men. Richard points out that, “Ellen is willing to try and let me keep you, Asher, and Jean-Claude in my life, Anita. That’s a lot" (16). That's too much, as far as I'm concerned, because Asher, Anita, and JC are all terrible people. Especially Anita and JC. Also, that a monogamous woman is expected to let her husband be poly -- that is more than a lot. How would you feel about someone demanding you be monogamous, Anita/LKH? That is no different from what Richard is asking of Ellen.
Anita and Micah cuddle all up on each other in the booth and Ellen's biology professor persona takes over and she asks them if it's because they're "lycanthropes" who are under stress. Richard says it's normal for Micah and Anita to have that level of PDA in public. Ellen says, "you're teasing me" (17). Ellen is horrified, and Anita has no idea why. It's because you violated societal norms in a public space while having dinner with a woman you just met. You have been incredibly rude this whole time, and Ellen apparently just reached her breaking point -- long after I would have, by the way.
Unfortunately, one thing I’d learned about being poly is that just because you’re not having sex with someone doesn’t mean they can’t screw it all up; everyone’s lover can affect the emotional side of things and Ellen had all the ear marks of being a pain in everyone’s emotional poly ass.
ELLEN is the pain in the ass? ELLEN? Anita's the one who's been unbelievably rude, jealous, dismissive, and downright nasty from the very first. Because Anita is not poly. Anita wants a harem. Also, people can impact each other emotionally even if they aren't fucking: who knew?
Anita, being supposedly oh-so-patient in a really smug and obviously rude way, asks what bothered Ellen as if she didn't already know. Ellen describes, in detail, how the touching Micah and Anita had been doing throughout the meal (everything but genital contact, basically) has upset her. Anita says that she wouldn't touch Micah's "groin", though she's getting very close, because "that would be rude and stupid. I'm trying not to be the first, and I'm not the second if I can avoid it" (18).
You have been the first from the first second you saw Ellen or even before, Anita, and you know it. And now you're pretending to be all innocent, trying to make Ellen the bad one for being bothered by your blatant violation of manners. You do not get to define social norms for everyone, Anita. Feeling up your husband's thigh under the table during a tense conversation about sex with someone who is already uncomfortable with you is rude. You don't have to be giving him a handjob for it to be that. Maybe it's not stupid if your goal is to make her seriously upset.
Ellen blushes and stands up to leave. Richard tries to stop her. She says, "no, Richard, she's deliberately trying to make me feel stupid and rude, and just... I can't do this."
This is really sounding like a real conversation that LKH had with someone now. Because Ellen is completely right. This exact point is when I think "Ellen" left the restaurant and "Richard" followed her irl.
Fictional Ellen sits back down, though, because fictional Richard asks her to. "Looking at how yummy he was always made it hard for me to be mad at him, too, or had once. Being in love with someone gives them a lot of extra clout."
Love = finding someone "yummy", i.e. handsome. Anita has the depth of a teaspoon. Also, if this is based on something that really happened, LKH just told the real woman that she if she truly loved the real man, she'd have sat back down and continued to take everything LKH was dishing out.
Ellen starts to cry as she says this:
I was willing to believe that you needed rougher things in the bedroom than I was comfortable with, so I thought I could accept you needed someone for that and for bondage, but now I see her and you have to stop lying to me, Richard. It’s not needing to be rough, or needing bondage, it’s just her. You want to keep her in your bed, and that’s that.
This is where it crosses over to wish fulfillment again. Poor Ellen.
Micah, being worse than a waste of space, tries to convince Ellen that Richard and Anita really do just need each other for the BDSM. He mentions that Richard sometimes leaves marks on Anita's body. Ellen is upset by this, and asks, "you beat her?" They say, "no." Anita says, "I would never let anyone beat me" (20).
Because anyone who is physically abused is "letting" someone beat them. Go bathe in Legos, LKH.
On to something less rage-inducing. My husband and I often call what he does "beating" me. It does not have to have a definite connotation of abuse. It can be empowering to take terms that are often used to denote abuse and use them to mean something wonderful instead. And if Richard is leaving bruises on Anita -- and Richard and Anita seem to get very rough, much rougher than my husband and I get -- well, I think "beating" is an apt term for it.
But here is why what Richard and Anita do is okay, unlike "beating" would be: they're playing at rape fantasies. Which is fine. But somehow I don't think Anita/LKH would think a vigorous spanking in a non-rape fantasy context is also fine, at least for a woman to receive from a man. Anita is still kind of embarrassed about playing out her rape fantasies, and this is not Anita, this is LKH. Anita actually rapes people and is actually raped all the time: Anita's life *is* the rape fantasy. I don't know if a rape fantasy can have rape fantasies. I'd say probably, in the hands of a different writer who was able to draw boundaries between fiction and reality much more strongly than LKH can.
Anita then says she also "tops" some of the men in her life. Well then that's okay! The implication is that being a woman who's always submissive sexually isn't okay. Ellen asks how this is not abuse. Anita replies, "this is my sexuality; it's what makes me happy. You saying that it's abuse is insulting; it would be like me saying that your idea of sex is boring" (20).
Anita obviously thinks Ellen's idea of sex is boring, and worse. And what makes you happy is not necessarily good, Anita, especially if you're abusing people, which by the way YOU ARE, also you are being abused, and it has nothing to do with the marks on your body and everything to do with the fact that you do not consent and neither does anyone else in your life. Also, thinking someone is abusive is far worse than thinking they're boring.
Ellen freaks out about Anita bringing up her sex life, saying it's none of her business. Ellen is correct. She is the one being asked for the major favor here. And, like it or not, people leaving bruises on each other is still considered kind of odd -- and you know what? I'm okay with that. I'm okay with bruises being questioned, because far too often there is real abuse going on and there are no questions asked at all. Obviously I would not be okay with being told my husband was abusing me even after I'd explained what was going on, of course.
Ellen says she didn't think it was bothering Anita to talk about it. Anita says, "it doesn't bother me to talk to my sweeties, but to someone I've just met who is judging every word I say, yeah, it bothers me."
First, "sweeties". I hope that coffee was poisoned. Second, Ellen is the one being asked a favor, you obnoxious waste of beach balls. She is here in order to understand your relationship with Richard, whom she is planning to marry. That entails asking questions. You have been very clear from the first page that you hate the fact that she has a relationship with Richard, that you are jealous of her, and that you hate her. She has given you so much more leeway that I ever would dream.
Anita is royally pissed off that Ellen would dare not fall at her feet. Then she thinks about how Richard being married, i.e. the "white picket fence", means he's denying himself rough sex and bondage. Then she thinks, "Was it possible to lie to yourself so well that you didn’t realize you were doing it? Hell, yes. I’d done it myself for years" (22).
I feel very embarrassed. As if I'd just walked in on LKH taking a dump. Okay, um. LKH is married. LKH likes BDSM. LKH is saying, through Anita, that she doesn't feel BDSM and being married go together. I'm going to close the door and pretend I didn't see anything now.
Richard and Anita give each other a look and apparently read each other's minds. Ellen asks wtf. Richard says, "Anita is wondering why I want someone who is so uncomfortable with so much of my life". Anita says yes, Ellen says, "it's just sex, not his whole life." Then there are a whole bunch of looks given.
Anita says, "If you believe sex isn't that important to you, that's your choice, but..." (23).
That's phrased to say, not that sex isn't as important to Ellen, but that she only BELIEVES that it isn't as important to her. Second, Ellen just said sex wasn't Richard's whole life. Anita is being judgmental at someone who has a life outside of sex. She is saying that if you have a life in which anything but sex takes center stage, or anything but sex is important, or in which you don't let sex control you completely: you are wrong. You are probably lying to yourself.
Sex is probably more important to me than to most people. And I find Anita's attitude here not only completely repugnant, but severely disturbing. If one does not have a life outside sex, one does not have a life worth the name.
Ellen says, "You’re asking me to let you have sex with Anita and then come home to me as if it’s all normal" (24). Yep, that's exactly it. Because Richard supposedly "needs" the bondage and rough sex. Look... no. I'm sorry, but no. It's perfectly fine to choose that you only want to have sexual relationships with a BDSM component. And for people who enjoy it, it often gives emotional fulfillment as well as physical, and is a wonderful thing. It can even help heal some psychological wounds. I know these things from personal experience. But it is not a need that trumps all else the way LKH is trying to present it here.
If Ellen loves Richard, she's supposed to let him have sex with Anita -- specifically Anita. But why is she supposed to change her monogamous sexuality to suit him? Why is she supposed to be okay with anything he does sexually, anything at all, while he doesn't bend an inch for her? Or -- horrible thought -- are we supposed to think he's bending because he isn't forcing her to do things she does not want to do personally, like being tied up?
Ellen calls Richard a selfish bastard, and yup. Then she turns into straw and demands, "are you honestly saying, that if I don't say yes to all this perverted sex that you won't marry me?" (24) Oh yes, the only reason anyone would have any problems with Anita/LKH is that we are vanilla prudes who think BDSM is "perverted". LKH insulted my sexuality how many times? She made it clear that some kinds of BDSM are okay and others are not. That monogamy is not okay, too. Plus there's the little fact that the sex in her books is almost always deeply, wildly sick as it is not safe, sane, or consensual in the slightest. Also it's not at all hot. But I guess I'm just a prude who's prone to call anyone who likes BDSM "perverted". I'll have to ask my husband to spank that out of me.
Richard dumps Ellen and Ellen responds by complimenting Anita. "You must be incredible in bed for him to throw everything away. I guess I can't compete with a fur banging, blood whore." I do not believe Ellen would say "fur banging", as she was about to marry a werewolf. The blood whore part, sure. And in this universe, I am there with her, because vampires in Anita's world are absolutely horrible and frankly I think anyone who would willingly have sex with one has severe issues. Not that anyone does ever willingly have sex with one, because there is no consent in this world.
Richard says that he must be a blood whore too, Ellen says he told her he didn't have sex with the vampires, the tall, muscular Richard leans in on her because that doesn't make him look like a collosal dick and threatening to boot or anything, and says, "Just because no one sticks their dicks in each other doesn’t mean it’s not sex." Wait a damn minute. I swear I've seen EXACTLY this line in a spork of LKH's work. Also, this is a 180 from everything LKH has written that I've ever seen, in which the sticking in of the dicks is the only thing that matters at all.
Ellen slaps Richard and runs out of the restaurant, he doesn't follow her, the end. She's been "shut down" all right, har dee har har. I am so curious who the man was who did follow "Ellen", and about whom this wish fulfillment jealous revenge fantasy is written. Oh well, we'll probably never know.
Wow, was that ever nasty. I feel dirty from reading it. Also embarrassed. I don't think LKH meant to give all of us this window into her yucky psyche, but there it is.
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Yup. Besides just having a lot of misogynistc, racist, etc. ideas, she's clearly just a nasty spiteful person in general.
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This says so much about the Anita Blake books, and why she always needs her woobies to be ostracized. After all, if such hot men weren't openly discriminated against, what need would they have for her?
The frightening thing is that I think that IS her thought process.
"Richard points out that, “Ellen is willing to try and let me keep you, Asher, and Jean-Claude in my life, Anita. That’s a lot" (16). That's too much, as far as I'm concerned, because Asher, Anita, and JC are all terrible people."
*cracks up*
"You have been incredibly rude this whole time, and Ellen apparently just reached her breaking point -- long after I would have, by the way."
Long after anyone would have.
"ELLEN is the pain in the ass? ELLEN? Anita's the one who's been unbelievably rude, jealous, dismissive, and downright nasty from the very first. Because Anita is not poly. Anita wants a harem."
Precisely. I think she only jumped on the poly train because it sounded a lot better than "harem-owner".
"You have been the first from the first second you saw Ellen or even before, Anita, and you know it. And now you're pretending to be all innocent, trying to make Ellen the bad one for being bothered by your blatant violation of manners. You do not get to define social norms for everyone, Anita."
Oh, of course she does! She's the sainted Anita Blake, and she knows How Things Should Be better than anyone else.
"This is really sounding like a real conversation that LKH had with someone now. Because Ellen is completely right. This exact point is when I think "Ellen" left the restaurant and "Richard" followed her irl."
:\ Cannot unsee.
"Love = finding someone "yummy", i.e. handsome. Anita has the depth of a teaspoon."
Insult to teaspoons. And this just confirms that hotness IS everything good about characters in Anita's eyes. Not just 'They're good, therefore hot', but 'They're hot, therefore good'. Wow.
"Also, if this is based on something that really happened, LKH just told the real woman that she if she truly loved the real man, she'd have sat back down and continued to take everything LKH was dishing out."
DX You're completely right. This is beyond repulsive.
"Because anyone who is physically abused is "letting" someone beat them. Go bathe in Legos, LKH."
Insult to Legos. Hot sauce, perhaps. Very hot sauce.
"Anita is still kind of embarrassed about playing out her rape fantasies, and this is not Anita, this is LKH. Anita actually rapes people and is actually raped all the time: Anita's life *is* the rape fantasy. I don't know if a rape fantasy can have rape fantasies."
It's so wrong, but I'm laughing at that line.
And I think it makes sense in that those are ACKNOWLEDGED rape fantasies. Anita's life is about supposedly-consensual raperaperape. Therefore LKH feels guilty about ADMITTING to rape fantasies.
"Also, thinking someone is abusive is far worse than thinking they're boring."
EXACTLY. That line from Anita was just... really, really disturbing. Beyond disturbing.
"I feel very embarrassed. As if I'd just walked in on LKH taking a dump. Okay, um. LKH is married. LKH likes BDSM. LKH is saying, through Anita, that she doesn't feel BDSM and being married go together. I'm going to close the door and pretend I didn't see anything now."
Same here.
"If one does not have a life outside sex, one does not have a life worth the name."
*nod*
"But I guess I'm just a prude who's prone to call anyone who likes BDSM "perverted". I'll have to ask my husband to spank that out of me."
*snerk*
"And in this universe, I am there with her, because vampires in Anita's world are absolutely horrible and frankly I think anyone who would willingly have sex with one has severe issues. Not that anyone does ever willingly have sex with one, because there is no consent in this world."
:\ That's about right. And anyone who does try to maintain consent is abused out of it.
"Wait a damn minute. I swear I've seen EXACTLY this line in a spork of LKH's work."
You probably have, though I can't figure out in which scene. Bullet? There aren't that many male/male scenes in her works...
"Wow, was that ever nasty. I feel dirty from reading it. Also embarrassed. I don't think LKH meant to give all of us this window into her yucky psyche, but there it is."
I think everyone feels dirtier after reading it. :\ Perhaps "shutdown" refers to any lingering trace of shame or tact she might have felt before this?
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Yeah, ACKNOWLEDGED rape fantasies are such very different things from what LKH writes.
LKH seems seriously unable to write a sex scene in which everyone is consenting, no matter how hard she tries. It's... disturbing.
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Lately everything I read about LKH's latest "works" and practically every blog post and FB entry that gets flogged on in lashouts makes me really glad that I gave up on reading these books. If/when the next Merry book drops, I'm pretty sure I won't be picking it up, either. The only thing LKH is doing lately is standing out as a shining example of what *not to do, in writing and in the PR aspects of being a writer. *sigh*
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Have you read duamuteffe's sporking of Affliction? It starts here: http://duamuteffe.livejournal.com/2013/07/31/.
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and there are so many excellent EXCELLENT analytical points you make that are BEAUTIFULLY SAID but it is almost midnight and my brain is not function enough to point them all out. just know i head nodded through everything you said. and i wish i could give you a non-scarring brain bleach or something to wash all this evil away. possibly fanfic?
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(Anonymous) 2013-10-15 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)Me too- in several, I think, but most recently in Affliction, chapter 68
"‘An ex who you still have sex with occasionally, and who Asher lets top him in the dungeon, and who Jean-Claude and you, and sometimes Asher, all have sex with.’
‘He doesn’t have sex with the men.’
‘You mean he doesn’t have genital contact with them.’"
And judging by the upgrade from "genital contact" to "dicks" I suspect the author does in fact read sporkings. Heh.
-Duamuteffe
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She's got one of the characters saying "dicks", but I will still be shocked if Anita or Anita's narration starts referring to body parts. Especially if she says "clitoris".
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(Anonymous) 2013-10-18 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)-Duamuteffe